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Hello!
I come from the English version, where my record is 720k points :/

But I enjoy the game, so I bought over here as well!

I was thinking, it would be good if a mod or someone could create a non-French subforum for English, Spanish, etc. (like on AlphaBounce, where they have a 'Political Prisoners' forum for non-french speakers)

Because that way we would get more of a chance to work with what all you French people are doing.

Hello JDGA !

And first, thank you for your interesting message. We are totally on your way concerning your questions.

Concerning the creation of this specific subforum, it should be opened soon, as Deepnight said it a few weeks ago...but still no news !

If it is finally created, I'll personnally go to your forum to tell you about it. (I hope that admin would do it too ).

Nevertheless, if you do have important questions, you can already ask them on a topic (this one or a new one).

Good game !
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And while we're asking, how about making this site in English ala Alphabounce (since there will be no further development at hfest.net). Sure, that makes the 5 euro many of us have spent at hfest.net totally worthless (except as practice space), but would make the 5 euro we've spent here infinitely more valuable and would reasonably attract more English speaking players. More players, more money.

I don't really agree for many reasons...

Firstly, that's not because the English language is the most employed through the world, and especially on the Internet, that we have to put aside the French one. The MT is a French organisation which first creates French games.Let's deal with this value. Kokoriko !

Secondly, a lot of gamers here, on the French website, are young people. They certainly do not understand or simply can't understand all the tricks and technics of the game if they are explained on an English way. To be frank, that's already quite difficult in our native tongue. As a matter of fact, a great part of them would just say bye bye to this site, disappointed.

Thirdly, there are a lot of puns and specific wordplays spread in the game, thanks to the French langage (the Sapnish version has its own puns too). So, if the webiste becomes entirely English-speaking, it's all the game that has to be re-thinking...And when we see how long we have to wait for an upgrade, I think we should not ask for too much.

Whatever, here we are, still waiting for the international part of the forum...
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which as usual means the english speakers get nearly entirely left out atleast the community cares about us some to try and help us figure some stuff out since the translating sites and stuff aren't entirely accurate if ever sometimes it seems.

What I intended to say was this.

Alphabounce is available in all three major languages (French, Spanish and English) and the user can select which one to use. As is KadoKado (well, I'm not entirely sure on the Spanish front there, but you get the idea). I have no problem with a French company making the French audience their priority. This makes sense to even us selfish Americans. But...since they have shown that they understand the economic benefit of having one site available in multiple languages I suggest they do the same here as they have on Alphabounce. That would entice a good number of the hfest.net users to come here for the additional levels and drop 5 euros at hammerfest.fr, as well as give the English speaking audience here a reason to spend some more money.

In the end, maintaining one site in three languages should be much easier than maintaining three sites in three languages. Sure the Spanish speaking audience might not see the need to wander over here since hammerfest.es is fully functional, but since hfest.net is a crippled version of the game, how about giving us Anglophiles a reason to drop some more cash on another great MT product?

I'll try to answer to radiotalent. However, my English isn't perfect, so I beg your pardon for my mistakes.

Why have the administrators created three websites (hammerfest.fr, hfest.net and hammerfest.es) ? Because at the development of the first French version, the admins didn't think they'll translate the game (in EN, ES or other languages !). So the code of this website isn't adapted to host the "foreigners". Consequently, when they saw the success of the game, they decided to open two new websites : one english and one spanish !

But as Thepoule has said, a new subforum (as "Political prisoners" on AlphaBounce) is planned. We're just waiting for some news from deepnight...

(Pfff ! This is very hard to explain something in English ! )

You're still right.

Creating an international version of the game would have bring only advantages to the MT. Unfortunately, they have decided to "internationalize" it after its launch in the French version. And I think this is the real problem.

No doubt they could permit everyone to choose their favourite language on the home page of the website. But they preferred create several versions of the game.

Why ? Well I think the main reason is the game itself. On your version, objects don't have a name, you take them when you play, you see them in your fridge and that's all. If you play here, you'll see that every object (and enemy ! and group of levels !) has a specific name, which generally deals with a pun. The same idea has been developed on the Spanish version, with specific Spanish puns. The fact is that it certainly interferes on the game itself.

It's quite difficult to be clear but, as an instance, when you are on Alphabounce, whatever the language, when you play the game, it is the same for everyone (same names). Not on Hammerfest.

But, does that really impede the MT to make an international site for the game ? I don't think so.

Now I'm quite a newbie in technical, and can't say the consequences of such a thing.

Nevermind, let's hope together for an international forum. It would be very useful to gather in communities, and maybe provoque a change in the administrators' ranks...

Good point : I'll physically see the responsible for the website on next Saturday...I really hope he has really really good arguments.
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I'm really not trying to argue here, I just think that there is a potential English market for the game that isn't very well served by the crippled version of Hammerfest that is hfest.net.

To me, an international section for the forums is a great start. But it's my hope the developers can find that one bilingual person to help transition .fr to an international spot. Sure, code rewrites are not much fun, but a rewrite to leave the door open for any language would be great. I personally don't mind missing out on the language specific jokes. The fact is I'm missing out on them now, so a joke I don't "get" in a language I do is no worse that a joke I might "get" in a language I don't. This is a great game, along the lines of Bubble Bobble which alot of us U.S. gamers grew up with and would gladly drop 5 Euro to play something along the same lines. I've done it despite the language barrier, but there are a lot of people that wouldn't. Maybe I'm underestimating just how ingrained the code is for the French audience but I look at the .es site and it seems they've done a carbon copy of .fr but in Spanish there. To me, that implies some portability of code and spending a week or two to rewrite the underlying code base to allow for any language would...to me...pay off huge returns.

Once again, let me restate, I have no problem with a French company making French the priority. But the games MT makes are so slick I'd love to share them with people that might be intimidated by the language. An XBox live version anyone?

The fact is I'm missing out on them now, so a joke I don't "get" in a language I do is no worse that a joke I might "get" in a language I don't.
Snif ! That's so desperately true...

But but but...be sure I'll do my best to convince them. Ready to be their pet hate concerning this matter.
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